On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, our Ask-the-Expert Online Conference was called Breast Cancer Screening. Cecilia M. Brennecke, M.D. and Marisa Weiss, M.D. answered your questions about mammograms, ultrasound, MRI, breast self exams, physical exams by a doctor, and other topics related to breast cancer screening.
Question from julie16: Why is screening so important?
The research that's been done as far back as the 1960s shows that X-ray mammography is the only proven method for finding cancer before anyone suspects that it's there. That research was rigorously done and has never been disproved. This is truer now, I think, than it was in those days because the quality of the images we can obtain is much better and our awareness is much greater.
Question from taylor: How is a diagnostic mammogram different from a routine or screening mammogram?
A diagnostic mammogram is generally read by the radiologist right after it has been done; ideally the woman does not leave the radiology facility until she has an answer about what is causing her breast problem. Usually the outcome is that everything is fine, but there is a higher incidence of finding cancer in that situation than in a screening situation.
Question from Sindee: Does digital mammography detect DCIS earlier than conventional X-ray mammography?
However there's a study that's currently underway in which each woman who signs up has a mammogram with film followed by a digital mammogram. Both mammograms are done during the same visit and compared. The study is showing that there are fewer recalls with the digital method, but that the image quality is a little better with the film. (Note: A 'recall' is when you are called back into the office following a screening mammogram because the radiologist found an abnormality on the mammogram that requires further evaluation.) A key benefit of the digital method is that we can manipulate the image after it has been obtained. We look at the image on a computer monitor, and we can make it larger or smaller, brighter or dimmer. We can also magnify specific areas. With a film image, on the other hand, once the technologist has taken the image and processed it, it can't be changed. If it's too dark or light, that's it.
The bottom line is that although there are some manipulations we can make with a digital image, at this point digital is no better than film and it's considerably more expensive. Digital equipment is about 10 times the cost of film equipment, and at this point there's no proven benefit to the patient. I think it will eventually be the only way to have a mammogram, but the equipment and monitors still need to be improved. Unfortunately, when we buy new equipment, health care costs go up, so we have to be very cautious about how we develop and use new equipment. We have to be sure it's worth the cost, because the cost is in some way passed on to patients. Screening has to be low in cost in order to be effective. You can't charge a lot of money and expect women to be able to pay for a test every year.
Question from Susi: A friend told me that mammograms are very painful, but that there is another method that is not painful. Do you know which test is she talking about?
There are plenty of tests that don't require compression. One is ultrasound. But ultrasound is not a screening tool because it cannot find the very early stage of breast cancer, which is what we call microcalcification. Microcalcifications are seen inconsistently on ultrasound. I love ultrasound; it's a fabulous tool in the breast, but we can't use it as a screening tool. MRI, interestingly, is performed lying down on your stomach with the breast immobilized. Now we've come to realize we can do the MRI if the breast is compressed, so we're back to compression.
Question from Nanc: After breast cancer and appropriate surgery, for how long should women have diagnostic rather than screening mammograms?
Question from Maja: It's been one year since I had a mastectomy and I am due for a mammogram. How are they going to view the mastectomy site?
More recently, research was done on women who'd had reconstruction; in many cases with a so-called TRAM flap procedure, in which abdominal fat and muscle are tunneled under the skin to the breast area. Researchers found that in a few of these women, there was evidence of breast cancer in the TRAM. It is very difficult to remove every cell of breast tissue during a mastectomy, and it's possible that a few remaining cells could be cancer cells that grew after the patient had a mastectomy. However, this situation is very unusual.
Question from Mary: Do silicone implants used in reconstruction surgery obscure radiographic exploration for recurrence?
Question from Arachne: There's been quite a bit of "news" recently suggesting that mammograms and breast self examination are not particularly valuable in discovering breast cancer. Is this true?
Mammography is of limited use if the breast tissue is dense, and there's no way to know how dense your breasts are until you've had a mammogram. Your breast can feel lumpy and sore and firm (cystic or fibrocystic), but when we do a mammogram, it may not be a difficult breast to interpret. Younger women tend to have breasts that are harder to interpret on a mammogram, but that's by no means universal. Thinner women tend to have breasts that aren't fatty. Fat is our friend on a mammogram. It helps us out when we're trying to find early cancer because it looks different than the way cancer looks.
Question from Kathy: The American Cancer Society (ACS) has done a very good job instructing women on the proper technique for BSE (breast self exam). Are the doctors that are attending medical schools today being taught to do a better CBE (clinical breast exam) than their predecessors?
Question from Trudy: I didn't find a lump, but a dimple. Is this common?
Question from Nett: After one breast has been radiated, should they still feel similar?
Question from Wondering: For those with a previous breast cancer, are breast MRIs the new standard as a supplement to mammograms, and how often are MRIs recommended?
Question from tracey: I was diagnosed with breast cancer last year at age 41. I've finished eight cycles of chemotherapy and almost eight weeks of radiation. The problem is that I have no confidence in the ability of mammograms or physical exams to catch a recurrence. Is there a better screening method? Would I be safer having an annual MRI or PET scan?
For this particular woman, I would advise her to continue to have a mammogram, a clinical breast exam, and ultrasound if needed for screening for breast cancer. These are still the most reliable tools that we have for detecting early cancer and recurrence. MRI at this point is a secondary tool. We don't have any evidence of its efficacy over time or how often it should be used. PET scanning is for the entire body rather than just the breast. PET can be used to check for metastatic disease, but not as a routine tool.
It's also important for the test results of each of these studies to be correlated with the other studies. For example, you are likely to learn much more about the health of your breast if your radiologist is looking at both your ultrasound and your mammogram and combining the information. If you have each of these tests in two different institutions, it's possible you may not capture the full amount of information available.
Question from Cyndal: What about when a breast cancer survivor reaches the magic five years and screening goes back to normal?
Any little thing you can do to maximize the quality of your screening can make a big difference. Another advantage to continuing with diagnostic mammography is that you usually get the result of your mammography while you're there. This can vary from one place to another, but I think in general the chances of your being able to talk to the technician and the radiologist is better if you have a diagnostic study.
Question from MariaR: I lost my mother to cancer when I was 10. How can I check myself, or what do I need to see? I also have two daughters, and I am worried.
Question from Becca: Is it true that extreme pressure on the breast for a mammogram can break and spread small tumors?
Question from Nelly: I am 62. I've had a mastectomy, radiation, without chemo (2 nodes involved), and been on tamoxifen for about 4 years. I've been free of cancer until now! For the past four months, I have had bad but intermittent back pain—all in the spine—and pain in one coxofemural joint. How can I manage this? What exam/screening do you recommend? My oncologist said, "We're waiting."
Of course there are many causes of back pain and joint discomfort besides breast cancer. If you've had breast cancer, your worst fears will always go through your mind. But low back pain is very common, as is arthritis. If you've had chemotherapy, particularly if you've been treated with a taxane, joint and muscle discomfort is not unusual. Some women experience joint and muscle discomfort while taking aromatase inhibitors. It sounds like you need to go back to your doctor and push him/her for some more answers, so you can have a better understanding of what's happening with your body.
Question from Kells: What can you tell us about R2 technology and ImageChecker in mammograms?
Question from Grannie: Hi, I am a 4-year breast cancer survivor. On my last mammogram I was called back for an ultrasound and was told that they had found new breast tissue that was not there last year. Also, I am postmenopausal, and have lost a lot of weight since the mammogram a year ago. I had never heard of having new breast tissue at my age.
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